I am a full supporter of equal marriage rights, but there are some secular arguments (not particularly good points, but attempts: 1) is it fair to say its okay to change the definition of marriage but not include polygamy 2) marriage tax cuts and things are expensive and there is no reason to hand them out to a couple who will not be producing children. 3) technically/statistically gay sex is riskier than straight sex, and legalizing it would encourage it. The only one I see how it could be an - TheCityHorse

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09.13
2012

livetorideridetolive asked: I am a full supporter of equal marriage rights, but there are some secular arguments (not particularly good points, but attempts: 1) is it fair to say its okay to change the definition of marriage but not include polygamy 2) marriage tax cuts and things are expensive and there is no reason to hand them out to a couple who will not be producing children. 3) technically/statistically gay sex is riskier than straight sex, and legalizing it would encourage it. The only one I see how it could be an

Issue is number 1..

1. It’s absolutley fair to focus on marriage equality because marriage equality is between two people - marriage is between 2 people -  polygamy is it’s own game and has nothing to do with the inequality of denying rights to a couple based on their genders. Denying equal rights to all couples is not explained away with “oh no the polygamy!” because polygamist relationships are NOT a couple. Polygamy is also not a majority issue. How many polygamists do you know hiding  their lifestyle because they fear for their well being? How many polygamists commit suicide every year because of bullying or reparative therapy or exclusion from peer groups?

2. the assumption that gay couples don’t/won’t/can’t produce children is unfounded. H and I will be ‘producing’ children, we are not unique or rare in the gay community, our orientation has nothing to do with our ability to produce children. Is it because we can’t ‘produce’ children without a little extra help? Neither can an infertile couple.

3. Which gay sex are you including in this? Lesbian sex, statistically, is the safest. Anal sex is practiced by gay and straight couples. It’s not ‘gay sex’ vs. ‘straight sex’ as there are NO sex acts limited to just one or the other EXCEPT of course the p in the v which doesn’t just lead to STD’s but also unplanned pregnancy… point being; straight sex is dangerous AND limited only to straight couples. This gay sex you speak of… these are sex acts available to all couples. Except lesbians because we don’t have the penis involved which brings me back to lesbian sex acts being safest.

Just volleying that back to you.. I like this discussion :)

  1. mosst said: Not to mention our country does in no way need more children, and if gay couples were to adopt a child they should both have full parental rights to that child and full government support in the same way a straight couple would receive for either
  2. thecityhorse posted this